setting Followup-To for various news clients

It's difficult to stick with posting conventions if your news client isn't correctly configured. This page is intended to give you some hints.

Posting in Plain Text & Quoting Before Your Text

The uk.* hierarchy have a useful web page which explains why and how to configure popular news clients to post in plain text, and to quote correctly.

Posting to cam.announce

cam.announce is intended to be a low bandwidth group for people who want to see announcements but not the followups. Hence you are encouraged to post announcements to cam.announce and cam.misc, setting a Followup-To: header to cam.misc. If you do this then all well mannered news clients will automatically post any followups to cam.misc only.

Some more limited news clients can't cope with this, but those same clients often can't handle postings to multiple groups and only post followups to the first group that the original was posted to. So when posting announcements you are recommended to put cam.misc first before cam.announce. Setting Followup-To: Headers

So you're posting to cam.announce and want to set a Followup-To: header. How do you do it? Often news clients only show basic headers by default so if you can't see a Followup-To: header already then you're looking for an option which may be something like “display all headers”. Once you've got a Followup-To: header visible set its value to cam.misc

Here's how to enable Followup-To: headers for specific news clients. If your client is not in the list and you work out how to do it please mail me.

Google Groups - just click the “Add followup-to header” link when composing your message and a new field will appear in which you can type “cam.announce”.

Outlook Express - this seems to vary with the version (Microsoft, doncha just love 'em). One person found they had to click on “New post”, “View”, “All headers”. Another says that with the Outlook Express that comes with IE4 you have to click “Compose message”, “View”, “Full headers”. You get the general idea.

You might also want to download and install OEQuoteFix which is a real help for getting quoting right and defaults to bottom posting. To quote from their web site: OEQuoteFix will extend the functionality of MS Outlook Express in numerous ways! Its main purpose is to modify message composition windows on-the-fly to allow for correct quoting and to change the appearance of your plain-text replies in general. But the second feature is equally practical: OEQuoteFix can instantly color quoted passages (according to the level of indentation) as you view messages in Outlook Express.

Netscape Communicator - if you click one the last header line marker you can see, probably the a second marker labelled “Group” then you get a pull down list including Followup-To.

Netscape 3 - on the composition window, select View → Followups To. The “Followup-To:” header will be added to the window and you can then fill it in.

Free Agent - click on the “All Fields »” button to toggle the additional headers. You may need to scroll the “Fields:” window to find the Followup-To header.

Ameol2 - it is extremely tedious in Ameol2 as you can only set additional headers globally, so you must set the header, post, then clear the header. Select “Settings|Usenet …”, select the “Headers” tab, in the Type box enter “Followup-To” (NB: no colon) and in the “Setting” box enter “cam.misc”. Then click the “Add” button and then “OK” (NB: if you click “OK” without “Add” first it is not applied - arghh!). Now make your posting and send to to the news server. Finally reverse the above before you post anything else.

Turnpike - click the “Edit News Header” button and fill in the Followup-To line.

trn - this and some other news clients simply put you in the editor of your choice with all the headers. So simply insert a like after the Newsgroups: line which reads:

Followup-To: cam.misc

Xnews - you click on “Manual Headers” and then type in the whole header, as per trn above.

Gnus - as with trn you edit the whole message (the message buffer) including the headers so you can just add a header. The most popular option suggested for doing that was that in the message buffer C-c C-f C-f positions the cursor on the Followup-To header, creating it first if necessary. Another user suggests M-x message-goto-followup-to, or Followup-To in the Message menu.

If you want a more elegant solution then Shaun says that “for all posts to cam.announce to have a Followup-To: header enter this in your /.gnus or /.emacs file.

 (setq gnus-posting-styles
        (signature-file "/.signature")
        (organization "My Organisation"))
         ("Followup-To" "cam.misc"))))

This will ensure that when posting to cam.announce the header is automaticaly added. This is probably preferable to having to enter it each and every time you post to cam.announce.” (An alternative way to do much the same thing is to do M-x customize-variable <RET> gnus-posting-style <RET>)

Pluto (an Acorn news/mail reader) - in the “Write News” window there is a “Follow-up” field visible in the headers. Just type in the newsgroup to follow up to, or click Menu on it to get a menu of the newsgroups you are subscribed to.

News Xpress - Go to the File - Options menu and the Compose tab. Add Followup-To: to the list of “Post headers” in the Template section. This now gives you a Followup-To header that is blank by default, so you can fill in cam.misc when posting to cam.announce and leave it blank otherwise.

Anawave/Microplanet Gravity - has a button in the article composition window, “Advanced Fields”, and Followups-To is settable from the dialog that pops up if you press it.

Newshopper - After selecting 'Create New…' from the 'Articles' menu, the 'Posting' window appears. (This window is also available by selecting the 'i' icon in the article editing window.) Type the name of the news group into the 'Follow-up To:' box.

Thunderbird - When composing your posting use the pull down in the headers pane on a blank line and select 'Follow-up To:'.

slrn - You should get an empty Followup-to: line in your editor.


Thanks are due to John R, who started me off on this exercise by asking how to do it and then, when I couldn't tell him, providing me with the runes for Outlook Express, and to the host of cam.misc readers who responded to my request for info on other clients including: David D, Toby S, Paul H, Alan B, Tibs, Bob, Ted J, Rhodri, Toby S, Ian M, Vicky, Ruth, Dave H, and Peter W. Also to Mark A for the pointer to OEQuoteFix. Sorry if I missed anyone in the flurry of mail and news on this. Thanks to you all. The Netcommunity triumphs again.

followup.txt · Last modified: 2008/08/19 16:18 by tallpaul
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